eojpek1
06-14-2008, 07:05 AM
Hello Everyone,
I've been browsing around this forum and I haven't seen any info that explains in great detail about Videos/Movies and there counter parts.
So, I figured this would be nice for everyone to know. I hope this Info will be helpful for all the Katz members who are wondering what TELESYNC, CAM, DVDRip, DVDscr, etc... are. I will be sharing info on Video Sources, Formats, Release Files, Scene Tags and various Misc. other Info in here. Enjoy...
Video Sources :
CAM -
A cam is a theater rip usually done with a digital video camera. A mini tripod is sometimes used, but a lot of the time this wont be possible, so the camera may shake. Also seating placement isn't always idle, and it might be filmed from an angle. If cropped properly, this is hard to tell unless there's text on the screen, but a lot of times these are left with triangular borders on the top and bottom of the screen. Sound is taken from the onboard microphone of the camera, and especially in comedies, laughter can often be heard during the film and also screams in horror films. Due to these factors picture and sound quality are usually quite poor, but sometimes you can get lucky, and the theater will be fairly empty and a fairly clear signal will be heard.
Note:CAMs are not the best type of source to download, the video and sound range in quality with each film and with the person who created it. It's always a hit and miss here, so be aware of this.
TELESYNC (TS) -
A telesync is the same spec as a CAM except it uses an external audio source (most likely an audio jack in the chair for hard of hearing people). A direct audio source does not ensure a good quality audio source, as a lot of background noise can interfere. A lot of the times a telesync is filmed in an empty cinema or from the projection booth with a professional camera, giving a better picture quality. Quality ranges drastically, check the sample before downloading the full release. A high percentage of Telesyncs are CAMs that have been mislabeled. When people use the audio source in this mannor it can be really great and it can be just horrid.
Note: Sometimes the video does not sync with the audio and the result is a Telesync that is like one of those old japenese movies. They are usually better than a CAM, but be aware your not always gonna get a good film with this type of source.
TELECINE (TC) -
A telecine machine copies the film digitally from the reels. Sound and picture should be very good, but due to the equipment involved and cost telecines are fairly uncommon. Generally the film will be in correct aspect ratio, although 4:3 telecines have existed. TC should not be confused with TimeCode , which is a visible counter on screen throughout the film.
Note: Although these are rare to come by, if you do come across one it will be very hard to distinguish this type of source from a DVDRip, as the quality is superb.
SCREENER (SCR) -
A pre VHS tape, sent to rental stores, and various other places for promotional use. A screener is supplied on a VHS tape, and is usually in a 4:3 (full screen) a/r, although letterboxed screeners are sometimes found. The main draw back is a "ticker" (a message that scrolls past at the bottom of the screen, with the copyright and anti-copy telephone number). Also, if the tape contains any serial numbers, or any other markings that could lead to the source of the tape, these will have to be blocked, usually with a black mark over the section. This is sometimes only for a few seconds, but unfortunately on some copies this will last for the entire film, and some can be quite big. Depending on the equipment used, screener quality can range from excellent if done from a MASTER copy, to very poor if done on an old VHS recorder thru poor capture equipment on a copied tape. Most screeners are transferred to VCD, but a few attempts at SVCD have occurred, some looking better than others.
Note: Be aware when downloading this type of source, as most will have a watermark that will show up all the time or from time to time.
DVD-SCREENER (DVDscr) -
Same premise as a screener, but transferred off a DVD. Usually letterbox , but without the extras that a DVD retail would contain. The ticker is not usually in the black bars, and will disrupt the viewing. If the ripper has any skill, a DVDscr should be very good. Usually transferred to SVCD or DivX/XviD.
Note: This type of source you should also be aware of as some may have a watermark that shows up from time to time.
DVDRip -
A copy of the final released DVD. If possible this is released PRE retail again, should be excellent quality. DVDrips are released in SVCD and DivX/XviD. The best source and most widely used around.
Note: Too many mislabel other sources as being this type and usually make a downloader of the movie unhappy and just waste there time. So be careful when downloading a movie labeled DVDRip as it might be a different type of source mislabeled. If you do not trust the uploader of the movie, then it's best to ask them or not even download the film from them all together. Just keep this in mind.
High-definition (HD):
High-definition (HD) video generally refers to any video system of higher resolution than standard-definition (SD) video, most commonly at display resolutions of 1280×720 (720p) or 1920×1080 (1080i or 1080p). This article discusses the general concepts of high-definition video, as opposed to its specific applications in television broadcast (HDTV), video recording formats (HDCAM, HDCAM-SR, DVCPRO HD, D5 HD, XDCAM HD, HDV and AVCHD), the optical disc delivery system Blu-ray Disc and the video tape format D-VHS.
A common resolution used in HD Ready LCD TV panels is 1366 × 768 pixels instead of the ATSC Standard 1280 × 720 pixels. This is due to maximization of manufacturing yield and resolution of VGA, VRAM that comes with a 768 pixel format. Hence, LCD manufacturers adopt the 16:9 ratio compatible for the HD Ready 1080p standard. Nevertheless, every HDTV has an overscan processing chipset to fix resolution scaling and color rendering, e.g. LG XD Engine, Sony BRAVIA Engine. Only when viewing 1080i/1080p HD contents under HD Ready 1080p where there is true pixel-for-pixel reproduction, and for HD ready LCD TV, do some signals undergo a scaling process which results in a 3-5% loss of picture. Most HD-ready CRT TVs use 1080i resolution.(Source : Wikipedia)
Note: Though HD is great it requires a lot more hard disk space to store the movies and if you do not have a high connection speed then it will take you forever to download a full movie. If you have a high speed connection and a compatible device to play the movie then by all means, get yourself a HD DVD if not then I suggest you stay away from this type of source.
HDTV :
High-definition television (HDTV) is a digital television broadcasting system with greater resolution than traditional television systems (NTSC, SECAM, PAL). HDTV is digitally broadcast because digital television (DTV) requires less bandwidth if sufficient video compression is used.
(Source : Wikipedia)
VHSRip -
Transferred off a retail VHS, mainly skating/sports videos and XXX releases. The quality can range here.
TVRip -
TV episode that is either from Network (capped using digital cable/satellite boxes are preferable) or PRE-AIR from satellite feeds sending the program around to networks a few days earlier (do not contain "dogs" but sometimes have flickers etc) Some programs contain extra parts, and the "dark matches" and camera/commentary tests are included on the rips. PDTV is capped from a digital TV PCI card, generally giving the best results, and groups tend to release in SVCD for these. VCD/SVCD/DivX/XviD rips are all supported by the TV scene. Now this is a hit and miss with this type of source.
Note: The quality ranges with the device that it was recorded with. I rate the quality of this source from good 5/10 to excellent 9/10. Also note that this source may be ripped from a VHS tape then transfered to a computer and processed.
PDTV :
PDTV is an abbreviation short for Pure Digital Television. Often seen as part of the filename of TV shows shared through P2P systems on the Internet. It is a label given to files that were ripped directly from a purely digital source, having less resolution than HDTV. This is often accomplished by using a TV tuner card capable of receiving Digital Video Broadcasts, or by recording a digital stream onto another device such as a digital video recorder and using the stored data to create the release. As such, they are sometimes labeled DVBRip (or DVB-rip). This alternate term is most often used by European rippers (since DVB is a European standard), but very rarely by those in The Scene.
'PDTV' has also been seen on semi-professional DVD releases found at fan conventions and on the Internet. This instance of "PDTV" is not the same as "Pure Digital Television" described above, as the source material for these DVDs is almost always analog in forms such as VHS. These releases are intended to fill gaps in the current catalog of available DVDs by making material available that has not yet been, or most likely never will be, released on DVD. In the event that a PDTV release is made obsolete by an official DVD, that particular title is pulled by PDTV and no longer offered.(Source : Wikipedia)
WORKPRINT (WP) -
A workprint is a copy of the film that has not been finished. It can be missing scenes, music, and quality can range from excellent to very poor. Some WPs are very different from the final print and others can contain extra scenes. WPs can be nice additions to the collection once a good quality final has been obtained.
R5 (bootleg) :
An R5 is a warez release, made with a telecine machine from an analog source. Unlike a TC the digitalization is done by the studio itself with very professional (and expensive) equipment and usually from the original source. The purpose of it is to create a high quality digital copy (usually for a later dvd release). But unlike a DVD, an R5 is released before the digital post-processing is finished.
Note: The quality of the rips can differ, but it can be even indistinguishable from a DVDRip since many movies are published on dvd with minimal editing.
The name also refers to a specific format of dvd released in the Former-Soviet Union, the Indian subcontinent, and much of Africa, which are in DVD Region 5.
In an effort to compete with movie piracy, the movie industry chose to create a new format for DVD releases that could be produced more quickly and less expensively than traditional DVD releases. R5 releases differ from normal releases in that they are usually a direct Telecine transfer of the film without any of the image processing common on DVD releases, and without any special features. This allows the film to be released for sale at the same time that DVD Screeners are released. Since DVD Screeners are the chief source of high-quality pre-DVD release pirated movies, this allows the movie studios to beat the pirates to market. Bootlegged copies of these releases are often distributed on the Internet.(Source : Wikipedia)
DivX Re-Enc -
A DivX re-enc is a film that has been taken from its original VCD source, and re-encoded into a small DivX file. Most commonly found on file sharers, these are usually labeled something like Film.Name.Group(1of2) etc. Common groups are SMR and TND. These aren't really worth downloading, unless you're that unsure about a film you only want a 200mb copy of it.
Note: Generally avoid this type of source.
Watermarks -
A lot of films come from Asian Silvers/PDVD (see below) and these are tagged by the people responsible. Usually with a letter/initials or a little logo, generally in one of the corners. Most famous are the "Z" "A" and "Globe" watermarks.
Note: Some of these may also pop up from time to time in the middle of the screen or on the bottom as well. Be aware that certain software applications may include one of these if you do not have a full version for example ConvertXtoDVD.
Asian Silvers / PDVD -
These are films put out by eastern bootleggers, and these are usually bought by some groups to put out as their own. Silvers are very cheap and easily available in a lot of countries, and its easy to put out a release, which is why there are so many in the scene at the moment, mainly from smaller groups who don't last more than a few releases. PDVDs are the same thing pressed onto a DVD. They have removable subtitles, and the quality is usually better than the silvers. These are ripped like a normal DVD, but usually released as VCD.
I've been browsing around this forum and I haven't seen any info that explains in great detail about Videos/Movies and there counter parts.
So, I figured this would be nice for everyone to know. I hope this Info will be helpful for all the Katz members who are wondering what TELESYNC, CAM, DVDRip, DVDscr, etc... are. I will be sharing info on Video Sources, Formats, Release Files, Scene Tags and various Misc. other Info in here. Enjoy...
Video Sources :
CAM -
A cam is a theater rip usually done with a digital video camera. A mini tripod is sometimes used, but a lot of the time this wont be possible, so the camera may shake. Also seating placement isn't always idle, and it might be filmed from an angle. If cropped properly, this is hard to tell unless there's text on the screen, but a lot of times these are left with triangular borders on the top and bottom of the screen. Sound is taken from the onboard microphone of the camera, and especially in comedies, laughter can often be heard during the film and also screams in horror films. Due to these factors picture and sound quality are usually quite poor, but sometimes you can get lucky, and the theater will be fairly empty and a fairly clear signal will be heard.
Note:CAMs are not the best type of source to download, the video and sound range in quality with each film and with the person who created it. It's always a hit and miss here, so be aware of this.
TELESYNC (TS) -
A telesync is the same spec as a CAM except it uses an external audio source (most likely an audio jack in the chair for hard of hearing people). A direct audio source does not ensure a good quality audio source, as a lot of background noise can interfere. A lot of the times a telesync is filmed in an empty cinema or from the projection booth with a professional camera, giving a better picture quality. Quality ranges drastically, check the sample before downloading the full release. A high percentage of Telesyncs are CAMs that have been mislabeled. When people use the audio source in this mannor it can be really great and it can be just horrid.
Note: Sometimes the video does not sync with the audio and the result is a Telesync that is like one of those old japenese movies. They are usually better than a CAM, but be aware your not always gonna get a good film with this type of source.
TELECINE (TC) -
A telecine machine copies the film digitally from the reels. Sound and picture should be very good, but due to the equipment involved and cost telecines are fairly uncommon. Generally the film will be in correct aspect ratio, although 4:3 telecines have existed. TC should not be confused with TimeCode , which is a visible counter on screen throughout the film.
Note: Although these are rare to come by, if you do come across one it will be very hard to distinguish this type of source from a DVDRip, as the quality is superb.
SCREENER (SCR) -
A pre VHS tape, sent to rental stores, and various other places for promotional use. A screener is supplied on a VHS tape, and is usually in a 4:3 (full screen) a/r, although letterboxed screeners are sometimes found. The main draw back is a "ticker" (a message that scrolls past at the bottom of the screen, with the copyright and anti-copy telephone number). Also, if the tape contains any serial numbers, or any other markings that could lead to the source of the tape, these will have to be blocked, usually with a black mark over the section. This is sometimes only for a few seconds, but unfortunately on some copies this will last for the entire film, and some can be quite big. Depending on the equipment used, screener quality can range from excellent if done from a MASTER copy, to very poor if done on an old VHS recorder thru poor capture equipment on a copied tape. Most screeners are transferred to VCD, but a few attempts at SVCD have occurred, some looking better than others.
Note: Be aware when downloading this type of source, as most will have a watermark that will show up all the time or from time to time.
DVD-SCREENER (DVDscr) -
Same premise as a screener, but transferred off a DVD. Usually letterbox , but without the extras that a DVD retail would contain. The ticker is not usually in the black bars, and will disrupt the viewing. If the ripper has any skill, a DVDscr should be very good. Usually transferred to SVCD or DivX/XviD.
Note: This type of source you should also be aware of as some may have a watermark that shows up from time to time.
DVDRip -
A copy of the final released DVD. If possible this is released PRE retail again, should be excellent quality. DVDrips are released in SVCD and DivX/XviD. The best source and most widely used around.
Note: Too many mislabel other sources as being this type and usually make a downloader of the movie unhappy and just waste there time. So be careful when downloading a movie labeled DVDRip as it might be a different type of source mislabeled. If you do not trust the uploader of the movie, then it's best to ask them or not even download the film from them all together. Just keep this in mind.
High-definition (HD):
High-definition (HD) video generally refers to any video system of higher resolution than standard-definition (SD) video, most commonly at display resolutions of 1280×720 (720p) or 1920×1080 (1080i or 1080p). This article discusses the general concepts of high-definition video, as opposed to its specific applications in television broadcast (HDTV), video recording formats (HDCAM, HDCAM-SR, DVCPRO HD, D5 HD, XDCAM HD, HDV and AVCHD), the optical disc delivery system Blu-ray Disc and the video tape format D-VHS.
A common resolution used in HD Ready LCD TV panels is 1366 × 768 pixels instead of the ATSC Standard 1280 × 720 pixels. This is due to maximization of manufacturing yield and resolution of VGA, VRAM that comes with a 768 pixel format. Hence, LCD manufacturers adopt the 16:9 ratio compatible for the HD Ready 1080p standard. Nevertheless, every HDTV has an overscan processing chipset to fix resolution scaling and color rendering, e.g. LG XD Engine, Sony BRAVIA Engine. Only when viewing 1080i/1080p HD contents under HD Ready 1080p where there is true pixel-for-pixel reproduction, and for HD ready LCD TV, do some signals undergo a scaling process which results in a 3-5% loss of picture. Most HD-ready CRT TVs use 1080i resolution.(Source : Wikipedia)
Note: Though HD is great it requires a lot more hard disk space to store the movies and if you do not have a high connection speed then it will take you forever to download a full movie. If you have a high speed connection and a compatible device to play the movie then by all means, get yourself a HD DVD if not then I suggest you stay away from this type of source.
HDTV :
High-definition television (HDTV) is a digital television broadcasting system with greater resolution than traditional television systems (NTSC, SECAM, PAL). HDTV is digitally broadcast because digital television (DTV) requires less bandwidth if sufficient video compression is used.
(Source : Wikipedia)
VHSRip -
Transferred off a retail VHS, mainly skating/sports videos and XXX releases. The quality can range here.
TVRip -
TV episode that is either from Network (capped using digital cable/satellite boxes are preferable) or PRE-AIR from satellite feeds sending the program around to networks a few days earlier (do not contain "dogs" but sometimes have flickers etc) Some programs contain extra parts, and the "dark matches" and camera/commentary tests are included on the rips. PDTV is capped from a digital TV PCI card, generally giving the best results, and groups tend to release in SVCD for these. VCD/SVCD/DivX/XviD rips are all supported by the TV scene. Now this is a hit and miss with this type of source.
Note: The quality ranges with the device that it was recorded with. I rate the quality of this source from good 5/10 to excellent 9/10. Also note that this source may be ripped from a VHS tape then transfered to a computer and processed.
PDTV :
PDTV is an abbreviation short for Pure Digital Television. Often seen as part of the filename of TV shows shared through P2P systems on the Internet. It is a label given to files that were ripped directly from a purely digital source, having less resolution than HDTV. This is often accomplished by using a TV tuner card capable of receiving Digital Video Broadcasts, or by recording a digital stream onto another device such as a digital video recorder and using the stored data to create the release. As such, they are sometimes labeled DVBRip (or DVB-rip). This alternate term is most often used by European rippers (since DVB is a European standard), but very rarely by those in The Scene.
'PDTV' has also been seen on semi-professional DVD releases found at fan conventions and on the Internet. This instance of "PDTV" is not the same as "Pure Digital Television" described above, as the source material for these DVDs is almost always analog in forms such as VHS. These releases are intended to fill gaps in the current catalog of available DVDs by making material available that has not yet been, or most likely never will be, released on DVD. In the event that a PDTV release is made obsolete by an official DVD, that particular title is pulled by PDTV and no longer offered.(Source : Wikipedia)
WORKPRINT (WP) -
A workprint is a copy of the film that has not been finished. It can be missing scenes, music, and quality can range from excellent to very poor. Some WPs are very different from the final print and others can contain extra scenes. WPs can be nice additions to the collection once a good quality final has been obtained.
R5 (bootleg) :
An R5 is a warez release, made with a telecine machine from an analog source. Unlike a TC the digitalization is done by the studio itself with very professional (and expensive) equipment and usually from the original source. The purpose of it is to create a high quality digital copy (usually for a later dvd release). But unlike a DVD, an R5 is released before the digital post-processing is finished.
Note: The quality of the rips can differ, but it can be even indistinguishable from a DVDRip since many movies are published on dvd with minimal editing.
The name also refers to a specific format of dvd released in the Former-Soviet Union, the Indian subcontinent, and much of Africa, which are in DVD Region 5.
In an effort to compete with movie piracy, the movie industry chose to create a new format for DVD releases that could be produced more quickly and less expensively than traditional DVD releases. R5 releases differ from normal releases in that they are usually a direct Telecine transfer of the film without any of the image processing common on DVD releases, and without any special features. This allows the film to be released for sale at the same time that DVD Screeners are released. Since DVD Screeners are the chief source of high-quality pre-DVD release pirated movies, this allows the movie studios to beat the pirates to market. Bootlegged copies of these releases are often distributed on the Internet.(Source : Wikipedia)
DivX Re-Enc -
A DivX re-enc is a film that has been taken from its original VCD source, and re-encoded into a small DivX file. Most commonly found on file sharers, these are usually labeled something like Film.Name.Group(1of2) etc. Common groups are SMR and TND. These aren't really worth downloading, unless you're that unsure about a film you only want a 200mb copy of it.
Note: Generally avoid this type of source.
Watermarks -
A lot of films come from Asian Silvers/PDVD (see below) and these are tagged by the people responsible. Usually with a letter/initials or a little logo, generally in one of the corners. Most famous are the "Z" "A" and "Globe" watermarks.
Note: Some of these may also pop up from time to time in the middle of the screen or on the bottom as well. Be aware that certain software applications may include one of these if you do not have a full version for example ConvertXtoDVD.
Asian Silvers / PDVD -
These are films put out by eastern bootleggers, and these are usually bought by some groups to put out as their own. Silvers are very cheap and easily available in a lot of countries, and its easy to put out a release, which is why there are so many in the scene at the moment, mainly from smaller groups who don't last more than a few releases. PDVDs are the same thing pressed onto a DVD. They have removable subtitles, and the quality is usually better than the silvers. These are ripped like a normal DVD, but usually released as VCD.