Warez Sites: The Real Scene & The 5 Facts

[Mac X]

You already have the guide “How to Start a Warez Site?” But do you know some truth behind the warez sites. You should know the truths and then start a warez site otherwise it is totally waste of time. Don’t take it as a waste of time because if you don’t read it now you will waste a lot of time and later you have to come back to this thread. Just skim the post.

Fact 1:
It is quite tough to get a reliable host for hosting warez indexing site. US hosts don’t allow any warez sites on their server. Some European & offshore hosts of Hong Kong and Malaysia allow hosting warez indexing sites but the speed is slow compared to the US based hosts. Hosting is quite tough for warez indexing sites unless you buy your own server and have some server management knowledge. Yes, there are some managed solutions also but you need to spend a few more bucks for that service.

Fact 2:
We assume that you have found a offshore host for hosting your warez site. But are they reliable and supportive? Most of the hosts of warez sites do not provide reliable and supportive service. If you are on a shared hosting package they cancel the hosting account showing the cause that the site is using too much resource or getting DDOSd and you will have nothing to defend yourself. And in most of the cases you will not get your money back. Warez Hosting Companies don’t even bother to answer your support ticket. And there are too many “So Called Warez Hosts” who just oversell and cheats with the people.

Fact 3:
Same script, same content, same old look again and again. According to me all the warez sites are using the same script like for portal phpnuke, WordPress, Joomla, phpfusion or for forum vbulletin, phpbb, ipb. Most of the warez sites look like same and have the same content “leeched” = “copied” contents from some of the popular warez forums. Nothing new is there. People are bored using the same things everywhere. Something new is not coming. Old same ddlsite concept started by Kaoz Network Script is being used by all the ddlsites. Yes some sites made a lot of modification ex. Rating System but still the concept is age old. Even now a days there are “crawlers” = “programmed post leeching scripts” to post in sites are being used too much.
Now a days iblog, blogspot and some other free domain name service are available. And their availability has increased the number of warez sites and decreased the quality of warez sites.

Fact 4:
Quick cash, easy traffic, too much advertisement and short span of sites. All these phrases are related with the warez sites. Everyone wants to start their warez site because it is quite easy to get traffic from the ddlsites. And the website owners put a lot of popup, advertisement of various sites which make the site look weird and awful. Sometime you need to use floodlights; used in stadiums to find the download content from the download posts. In this situation some big ddlsites which sends traffic blacklist the sites for excessive advertisement. And when the owner don’t see that he is getting enough traffic he just stop working on his site and forget about it. Warez Sites = Short Span of Life.

Fact 5:
Money problem, betrayal, hacking, hacker, crackers are also a problem to the warez sites. When a site gets popular the people working on them asks for monetary benefit or demand more money to the site owner. Most of the cases the site owner don’t pay the workers at all. When they are betrayed they choose to start their own site and try to bash the site he worked previously. And if you are in the field of warez it is certain that you will meet with some people who have good scripting knowledge and crackers who use the exploits to hack a site. And the crackers can hack any site only for fun. I should also mention here that all the scripts used for warez sites are not secured and can be exploited at any time. And the competitive forums use the crackers to hack the sites and it has become a common news nowadays. If you have customized the codes of the scripts then you can rest a little bit.

Last Words:
It is quite easy it enter and leave in the warez field. But the toughest challenge is to stay settle in the field with yours sites. You should consider my five facts about the warez sites. If you have the courage to sustain in the warez field then you are welcomed otherwise don’t waste your time and don’t provide any worthless things.

[UltimA]

Good post.
I just read over it and it points out some good facts.

One point I must add, do not come into the warez scene expecting to make a fast buck. The purpose of warez is not to gain money - ever! If you are on a free subdomain do not use advertisements, and if you are on shared - keep it to a minimum. If you are powered by a dedicated server then of course advertisements are ok to cover the costs, but by all means, do not insert them to make a profit. That's a very strong view I have.

I have had an advertisement on my site in the past, but since I removed it, Katz rated me higher, it made my site look cleaner, and generally improved it in all aspects.

If you run a warez site, keep your admins to the minimum. The more people that access the Admin Panel, the more something can go wrong.

I will make a thread later today about all good hosts that allow warez linking.

[cRaCk PoT]

Katz? Stable I guess.

All you said above is perfectly true. Especially, the adverts. My site too got banned on Katz because of that. :(

[tijnema]

Seems I'm quite cool with my warez site :D

Fact 1: I have a site on a Private server in the US owned by a friend of my :)

Fact 2: Definetly reliable ;) Good friends are always reliable :)

Fact 3: Own design, very very simple :) Uploads all by myself, so no leeched links ;)

Fact 4: Only 3 google ads, I have the site for free, so I don't need to gather any money with it.

Fact 5: My own script, my own security :) It's a one-man business, so betrayal isn't gonna come ;)

[Cuzabis]

some very nice info in there.... Im sure a lot of the members will apreciate it... Thank you Mac

[vinogradov]

Fact 1:
ive posted 3 reliable hosts, online-solutions.org is a very realiable host, its been up for a LONG time.

Fact 2:
Not exactly, most hosts dont oversell ( i use about 90% of what i buy, and they never told me to upgrade nowhere!

Fact 3: (2nd stupidest thing i ever heard)
I copy and paste - there is nothing wrong with that!, i admit it but it doesnt mean i dont upload, i realease downloads! and no its not going to be the same content everywhere, this is where your completely wrong, if there was same content everywhere then warez sites wouldnt link to katz because all the members would just go there because it has most downloads! And did u forget the fact that members know about uploading, omfg i guess u didnt know!, when a site gets members the members start uploading for the site.

AND LAST: alot of people join for COMMUNTY rather then the downloads, if those people only joined for downloads there would probably be about 3 major sites, and everybody would be registered to them and there would be no posts because they would only be leeching and probably most of them would just surf katz all day!!!!!!!!!!!!

your fact 3 has failed severily :)

Fact 4:
you must not know how to advertise lol, i never force the ads! im adding 1 ad to my site today, but its 1 banner and its only for GUESTS and below it says 'to remove ads please register!' and if this is a fact why do i go to most sites and dont see 3 popups, i mean i see ads and popups but a site like that is usually hard for me to find. also you say "warez sites = short lifespan" well then how come my site has lasted for about 3 years now, all this tame a fairle small site and its gone from free phpbb host to 3 different hosts and has still gotten 90% of its members back? well thats because there is dedicated members that actually like the community! with your facts youve preatty much made all ppl who have joined a warez site look bad and say they are leechers and blamed webmasters for posting too many ads! Your lucky to even get it free, if a site offers free software worth thousands of dollars what the fuck are you complaining about?

Fact 5:
what do you do advertise your site at g00ns.net? wtf? IM NEVER GOING TO PAY A MOD/ADMIN/UPLOADER/CRACKER/OTHER, you really dont know what warez is about, warez is about FREE and FUN , mods like there job unless you completely ruined there lives, if you own a site: i cant belive u would have any members, why are you putting everybody down, ANYBODY can start a warez site, why are you telling them they cant or its super hard or some shit, my little brother owns a site with 3k members (hes 14...i built up the site for him but im building up mine now).


btw cuzabis i like all the buttons in your sig, i actually use most of those to navigate lol :)

[Lease]

Pretty much true what you just wrote Mac
And ^ vinogradov, he wasn't talking about you, calm down. :S

[vinogradov]

Pretty much true what you just wrote Mac
And ^ vinogradov, he wasn't talking about you, calm down. :S

i know, but hes really wrong in many parts of his "facts" (alot of which are opinions)

[UltimA]

Fact 4: Only 3 google ads, I have the site for free, so I don't need to gather any money with it.



So why the hell do you have 3 Google Ads? :|

[st0ne]

Fact 1:
ive posted 3 reliable hosts, online-solutions.org is a very realiable host, its been up for a LONG time.

*cough*. Actually, *I* posted online-solutions.org. It was me who used it well over 5 years ago, and used it for several years before i closed my site down. While i appreciate you posting it, you shouldn't take credit for information i gave you.

Fact 2:
Not exactly, most hosts dont oversell

False - Most cheap hosts are overselling.

Fact 3: (2nd stupidest thing i ever heard)
I copy and paste - there is nothing wrong with that!,

This isn't stupid, its quite true. While we accept submissions i see TONS of repeat topics, identical to each other across multiple forums. This is a terrible problem. While i admit its easy to copy and paste - leeching links makes for overall poor quality.

Uploading sucks. I know, because i do it on a regular basis. So i understand why people leech. It still does not make it right... so yes, there is something wrong with it :P

Fact 4:
you must not know how to advertise lol, if a site offers free software worth thousands of dollars what the fuck are you complaining about?

I'll tell you what he is complaining about. For instance: All blogspot, iblog, freehosters, resellers, cheap 5.00 usd or less hosting per month... webmasters using these methods to host their site are absolutely trying to make a gross profit.

They use pop-ups, ads, install scripts, layer ads, text ads, fake, misleading links in the name of money. They claim its for supporting their site, when in reality most are paying little to nothing at all for hosting. Its ridiculous to be honest. We have to view these sites daily to make sure they aren't trying to screw unsuspecting guests over... its not easy work.

If places like warez-bb, katz, and other larger sites can remain ad-free, so can other smaller sites. especially those as mentioned above.. on cheap or free hosting.

you shouldn't have to "hunt" for what you are looking for. There are hundreds of "clean" sites out there... the sites being mentioned here make the good sites look bad

Last Words:
f*ck you!

Flame someone like this again, and you won't have a forum to flame at. Its one thing to bring your point about in a creative manor, and another to bash someone. All the posts up until yours was helpful... all you did was try to tear them down... like you have to defend yourself for some reason.

Please don't do this again. If you have a bone to pick with someone, do it in a more friendly, constructive manor.

[vinogradov]

well he said the ad thing like it was every site that was making these adverts, i have cheap hosting and noly have 1 ad that im going to remove soon. srry about the f u thing. and i know u told me about online-solutions.com and i wasnt taking credit or anything, i knew about the site before just didnt know if they allowed warez, then after u told be i added it to guid :)

[Mac X]

Thank you all for your point of view. My this topic don't reffer to a single site or some selected persons. This is from a general point of view.

I never expected positive comments from everyone to my post. But thanks to you Mr. vinogradov. And I request you to be polite.


Yes there are still some hosts otherwise there would have been no way to come in the warez field who are reliable and not the oversellers. The host Mr. vinogradov mentioned here provides 15GB bandwidth for 6$ but only allows 2 SQL Databases; that means you can host only 2 sites at most. Most of the scripts used in warez sites use atleast 1 mySql database so only 2 sites. Yes they have made the package in a way so that resource will not be overused.

In some of my earlier posts I mentioned that the cheapest server from a HongKong Based hosts costs around $100 and you will get 1000GB of bandwidth + direct admin as control panel. Here the host can sell at most 20 accounts 50GB bandwidth per account and he need to sell every account for 5-7$+ otherwise he will not make a profit. You can use the data of this paragraph for choosing hosts based on their price structure.

Some “So Called Hosts” provide 500GB bandwidth for 5$ in shared hosting. What should they be called? Oversellers? Yes Obviously. Shared hosting also refers to the shared use of server resources. The host also provides some restrictions in their TOS that you can’t store any warez file or use the account for image hosting purpose. Because these use too much server resource; Ram and Processor and bandwidth. Than how the bandwidth will be used? Fine!!! Now if all the warez files are stored in rapidshare and all the screenshots and other pictures related to the posts are hosted on photobucket only text and some script remains. I don’t think that only text can consume 500GB bandwidth unless the site is a very popular one. If they are not oversellers than katz or other sites would have been hosted on “So Called Hosts” just paying 30$ for 3TB of bandwidth and even on shared hosting plans.

I hope I don’t need to provide any more clearance to differ between a reliable host and “Oversellers”. Some of you will still have opposite thoughts. You are welcomed to post your view.

I never tried to demoralize anyone to come in the field of warez. But one should know the real scene behind it. Stay alive is the main thing. Dealing with emails of legal authorities like M$ and other companies, securing and updating your script and monitoring your sites so that they don’t get hacked, protecting your site against DDoS are not easy. Site Management is a great task; specially for forums. For example, some slight mistake by the admin of a very popular forum caused his site closed. If you think that you will not lose hope and will stay in the field whatever comes against you than you should be in the warez field. Everyone should check the blacklisted domains at Katz Downloads and other sites. Everyone should also read the reasons why the sites got banned and check that are the blacklisted sites are online or passed away.

Special thanks to Stonefeather for his reply. I hope other admins and moderators will reply in this topic.

Spare Time and Age Line:
I should have discussed about it earlier however, most of us who are in the warez field are of age 15-25. Exceptions are not being denied. But after this age most found that they don’t have much time to manage the site anymore or think that nothing remained in the field they sell or close their site. Most of us of this age group has some aim to achieve; it may be name or fame or money. Just question yourself what you will do after age 25 and then you will find am I saying right or wrong.

[vinogradov]

yeah. srry about that mate :)

[Simba49]

Lol, owned, but ANYWHOO...

Personally in my opinion warez sites are useless, except warez-bb...all propz to them...most warez sites are leeches. Period. Everyone copies shit (excuse my language) and expects power, i mean am i right or what? Someone that posts 10,000 leeched threads is more likely to get more "power" then someone whom upload 500 things. Yes, the uploaders deserve more but, the world isnt fair...Sure some sites might get close to good. As long as you have fun with it that's all that matters i guess. That's why i quit warez and went to porn, it's just more, what's the right word...enjoyable i guess. it's like your job at work...Do what you enjoy the most, you have to live with it the rest of your life...

Yeah...im tired as F* today so yea...those were SIMBA49's words they wernt leeched!

Have a great one and grab a beer, besides tomorros firday!!

[vinogradov]

yeah i have some uploaders and i upload myself

[tijnema]

So why the hell do you have 3 Google Ads? :|

Just to give some money back to my server admin ;)

He hosts a lot of sites for me, and those ads don't look that bad :)

[Cuzabis]

Fact 1:
btw cuzabis i like all the buttons in your sig, i actually use most of those to navigate lol :)

thank you :)

I figured it be convenient... its like a back button to anywhere, anywhere I am :)

[phenomgfx]

Lol someone removed my post. MOD above me I am looking at you.

EDIT: a Post + Thread of mine have been removed and you were the only mod online right after I made those posts. Within 3 minutes both the post and thread were removed.

Please give reasoning behind deletion. MOD: [ cuzabis ]

[Cuzabis]

no advertising in other peoples threads nor in General Discussion

[tijnema]

thank you :)

I figured it be convenient... its like a back button to anywhere, anywhere I am :)


Yes, these buttons are very useful, the only button I'm missing is the forum index button :P

[To0]

All this stuff is common sense o_O

[Cuzabis]

What some consider to be common sense, others might consider to be advanced

I think web design is common sense... Im sure half the people in this thread would disagree

[vinogradov]

ya php seems hard to ppl to me is very simple. its like lego's each block is a php function and when there all put together correctly it makes something well over what those small functions really do :)

[tijnema]

yeah, php, perl, python, C, C++, BASIC, C#, Java, Ruby, Javascript, ASM, and all others I forgot, is common sense for me, but not for everyone ;)

[Cuzabis]

Yeah see :)

*shrugs* but im the only one with a working app??? c'mon guys top my autoposter... lol I got no programming experience whatso ever :)

[-V-]

common sense a?
I must have non.
:|

[tijnema]

Yeah see :)

*shrugs* but im the only one with a working app??? c'mon guys top my autoposter... lol I got no programming experience whatso ever :)

I never saw it actually :P


I had some tools for other forum, but well, quite outdated :P

and of course, working on my new tool ;)