Never Forget!!!

[Senpai]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6qFlks6Rig

Tragic day and also the beginning of a new miserable era :'(

[cf]

never forget what the japs done to the pows they deserved the bomb droped on them plus it ended the war and saved millions of lives just ashame we never had it in 1939 done nazi germany as well if the japs had it first they would have used it on us for sure they were inhuman they way they treated people as for a new miserable erai think it caused a status quo america and russia would have gone to war years ago if wasnt for the weapons

[neo888]

The United States had to end the war and the only was was to bomb Hiroshima and Nagasaki. If they did not bomb them, they would have had to invade, which would have killed 1 million Japanese people and half as many americans. Hiroshima and Nagasaki were military headquarters.

[Senpai]

never forget what the japs done to the pows they deserved the bomb droped on them plus it ended the war and saved millions of lives just ashame we never had it in 1939 done nazi germany as well if the japs had it first they would have used it on us for sure they were inhuman they way they treated people

Hiroshima were civilian casualties (mostly woman and children) who didn't personally do anything wrong or didn't ask to participate into a war at all.

Soldiers know the risks of war, civilians don't have any choice.

Have any idea what those innocent people went through? How can they deserve that? ...how can you wish that to anyone?

Yes the Japanese army did seriously wrong in the past, but that doesn't justify for anyone else to do the same or worse...it proves they are not better then (or worse).

I got many people coming on bringing up Pearl harbor and the Nanking Massacre, yet that doesn't justify it.

If it would, then you agree to nuke any country that stands in your countries way...would make a very small world destructed at the end.

[cf]

what about the jap airraids on australia they never cared about civvy casuties what about the nurses with no militry back ground forced into femail pow camps the sick in hospatal who was banotted for being ill and not being able to work the chiness population what was murderd the list gets more and more i could add a lot more the war had to end

edit sorry sebpai just my opinion

[neo888]

Yes the Japanese army did seriously wrong in the past, but that doesn't justify for anyone else to do the same or worse...it proves they are not better then (or worse).
I thought that the japanese got over it and usually don't go digging up graves of hatred

[iamsorry]

Woooh people calm down! Both sides committed atrocities , such is the nature of war!

We should never forget any of the actions of both sides but also try and learn the lessons from them. If it wasnt for Nagasaki and Hiroshima we probably would have had WW3 because noone would have seen the sheer damage that was caused and would be put off by it.

I think we should try and bring this discussion to a close.

[Boa]

Woooh people calm down! Both sides committed atrocities , such is the nature of war!

We should never forget any of the actions of both sides but also try and learn the lessons from them. If it wasnt for Nagasaki and Hiroshima we probably would have had WW3 because noone would have seen the sheer damage that was caused and would be put off by it.

I think we should try and bring this discussion to a close.


For once i agree. I think this topic should be closed before it gets out of hand.

[neo888]

Such type of a topic shouldn't even have started .

[Senpai]

And for what reason not?

The innocent victims in this case don't deserve to be remembered? This topic was created for that reason to begin with (not to glorify the WWII Japanese army) and also to point out how messed up the atomic bomb being invented is.


And if people can't handle a possible mature debate, then wow...

Let's start making "what's your favorite candy" kind of topics then I guess.

[iamsorry]

Some things are just not meant to be discussed, I appreciate were your coming from Senpai on that we should have variety in the discussions and that not everything must be about "flowers and cuddly bunnies"

Though it would be nice to have a debate, to have a real debate you must be in a room with your opponents and there will be a man on the chair (speaker) who regulates it. Even though there are admins here all it takes is one random person to just "register" on katz and say something wrong which will result in sparks flying and a chain reaction causing disruption in the forums. So with the lack of regulation I think its not advisable!

[momochan]

Neo888@

I disagree with you when you said that this topic shouldn't have started...Senpai started this topic for those Japanese people who had no say in the war, to remember the innocents, not to glorify the bombing of those two cities.

And if people are not able to handle these topic, then I don't know what to say...

iamsorry@

I see your point of view, but if one person came to katz and register to cause trouble in the forum thus not advisable to have topics like these started...well you know there are such things as admin, moderators to look over the forum.

[farrell]

this debate is very controversial and it arouses anger from both sides because both sides have done wrong things. i agree with iamsorry, some things should not be discussed.

[neo888]

Neo888@

I disagree with you when you said that this topic shouldn't have started...Senpai started this topic for those Japanese people who had no say in the war, to remember the innocents, not to glorify the bombing of those two cities.

And if people are not able to handle these topic, then I don't know what to say...

iamsorry@

I see your point of view, but if one person came to katz and register to cause trouble in the forum thus not advisable to have topics like these started...well you know there are such things as admin, moderators to look over the forum.
I know that it was to remember the innocent lives lost then but it felt more like a hate topic created by some one who hates a particular community .I am an asian too and I say sorry to all people if i said something wrong(except to the author of this thread because I don't think he actually wanted to do that) but what i meant is that hate topics should not be created .Maybe if you(i am talking to you momochan) had created this topic it would have felt like it was to remember those lives lost and me myself and cf are not mad that we would be harsh.

[Senpai]

momochan is Korean to... and I aint Japanese.

and this proves enough:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEaIo50nQV8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-jPmfkVK_DI

I'm the creator of those videos on Youtube, this shows I'm neutral and only care for the innocent lives being gone in a war, no matter what side they were on, no matter what culture or race.

[Tars]

I think this has gotten off track.

06-08-45 was the date the first bomb fell, no matter what views there are about the use of the bomb for the war the date is a memorial for the first use of that bomb in a war situation and the civilian deaths that were involved.

My view at least.

[eyesonyouu]

These days too many topics on Katz are becoming Controversial! there is a fight between members every other day!! X-(

[CybeRnotic]

That was a terrible day for all the World

Never forget it ..!!

[voltaire]

The leadership of the world at that time was at a real low. You had Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, The Japanese Emperor, and Truman.

It was a Tragic Era, with plenty of genocide to go around.
R.I.P. to All the innocent victims.

[neo888]

The leadership of the world at that time was at a real low. You had Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, The Japanese Emperor, and Truman.

It was a Tragic Era, with plenty of genocide to go around.
R.I.P. to All the innocent victims.

At last some one with a sane mind .god bless

I say this because innocent lives were lost on all sides and there is no point in remembering only one side.

[Senpai]

At last some one with a sane mind .god bless

I say this because innocent lives were lost on all sides and there is no point in remembering only one side.

Oh my, talking about using the mind...look at the date *hint hint*

I'm sure we'll see topics of those other events to when someone just like me has a heart and bothers to bring it to people's attention and make a video and topic about it...just like we'll have a 9/11 topic on that "date"

...geez

Here the last thing I gotta say to ya and remember these historical words well:

"The one who does not remember History is bound to live through it again"

So yeah, get the idea of the topic now? ...don't forget, never forget, but remember.

Cheers

[upnorth]

These days too many topics on Katz are becoming Controversial! there is a fight between members every other day!! X-(

http://i25.tinypic.com/1xxf8g.gif
:P

/UpNorth

[Drama]

It is true that the americans maybe should not have used weapons of such destruction but the Japanese goverment refused to forfeit no matter what. Japanese are honorable people it's no wonder.

[Tahir52]

let's just all forgive but don't forget else:
"The one who does not remember History is bound to live through it again"

:-)

[ninjakiller1]

I do remember that history and I am always sad what happen to Hiroshima with atom bomb, that was unhuman way.

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I would say one thing, that time in world war the America never cared about Childrens who died in Hiroshima, childrens are the future of the world, what they done was unhuman way and most mass slaughter in history of America.